Aug. 28, 2025
Why Did "Rob" Westman Kill Part 1
Law enforcement expert and CEO of InvestUSA.org Michael Letts joins us to discuss the Minneapolis shooting involving 23 year old Rob Westman.
What drove him to mercilessly kill 2 young kids at a Catcholic school, and injured 17 others? Was it violent video games, medication, AI Affirmation, cultural hatred, or something far more sinister that no one wants to talk about...?
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including our interview
yesterday with Michael Letts
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where we delved into what I
thought was breaking news, but I
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don't know.
We didn't get a lot of traction,
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but we broke some news yesterday
with regard to Barack Obama.
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Yes.
And then everything got blown
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off the map with a shooting.
Yeah, Minnesota.
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Sometimes I wonder whether
they're listening.
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Listening.
Oh, we better create a story
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real quick.
I know that one's going out.
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Yeah, What do they say?
There's no coincidences.
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There's no such thing as a
coincidence.
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All right, so let's break this
down.
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Michael, you're a cop.
You know what this is all about?
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You know what all this is?
Give me your honest to goodness
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impression of how things went
down and what you think was
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behind the shooting by Rob.
I'm going to refer to him as Rob
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because that applies to Robin or
Robert.
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And God forbid me offend anyone
but Rob Westman.
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Not a not a happy guy.
No, not a happy transgender,
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that's for sure.
But let's talk about let's let's
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start off with a positive gun
about what occurred.
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You had a very rapid response
from law enforcement, and I give
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them a hats off for that.
You watch the video now, when
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they pull up on the scenes,
remember, they didn't know that
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he'd already committed suicide.
So you have an active shooter,
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you don't know where he's at,
and you have all these authors
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jumping out and rushing into the
scene.
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Most of them did not have active
shooter vests.
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So they knew that they were
putting themselves in death's
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way, not harm's way, death's
way, and willing to do it
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anyway.
So hats off to them.
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I commend their service and
thank them for doing what they
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could to protect those children.
And maybe we should send them
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some vests.
How?
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How's that?
Yes.
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There's no question that you
should need the best.
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You know what's interesting?
I'm giving people a statistic
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just to show you not only do
they need the best, you know,
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Minneapolis typically has almost
1000 officers.
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As of today, they're running
about 520.
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So that just shows you how bad
it is all across the country,
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including Minneapolis, running
at almost a 50% capacity instead
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of 100%.
Now that having been said, that
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was the positives.
What are the negatives?
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Let's talk.
We'll talk about twofold.
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We'll talk of the shooter at the
end.
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Let's talk about the overall
negatives.
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To begin with, you had an
incident to where, once again,
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there were what we call tail
signs, signs everywhere, a
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manifesto that was put up on
social media, threats on social
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media, etcetera.
You know, I pulled the last nine
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active shooter events that we've
had.
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And by the way, I'm just going
to tell it like it is.
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You may not like it, but you're
going to have to deal with the
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facts.
Every one of the last nine were
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committed by a transgender.
Every one of the last 9, not
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just the last time, all of the
reactive shooter, which I
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remember this from years back,
have always had a telltale sign
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ahead of time.
Now, why is that important for
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me to bring that up?
We had the Federal Bureau of
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Investigation supposed to be
protecting us from domestic
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terrorism.
You try to threaten the
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president, see how quick you get
a call and see how fast
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somebody's all over you.
So don't tell me that we don't
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monitor social media because I
know we do.
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So why do when we see these tail
signs come up, there's nothing
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being done to step in to make
sure the your area that it's
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going to be done in and the
jurisdictions are where so they
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can prepare to deal with it and
thwart it from ever occurring.
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I've raised this question many
times in the past.
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Nobody's paying attention to no
bill.
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They're not doing it.
Something we're going to have to
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address.
I appreciate Cash Patel saying
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this was a hate crime.
He's exactly right because of
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the Now we're dealing with the
third aspect of government.
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The gunman has Arabic training
leanings, Muslim leanings and
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dispositions.
So this is a Muslim terrorist
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going after Christianity,
Catholics, Christians.
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We're seeing more and more of
that.
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And how does it tie in with the
transgenders?
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Well, you know, this is what
they're doing to our young
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people.
They're telling them you, you're
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so confused, you don't even know
if you're a guy or a gal.
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We're going to give you some
drugs.
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Certainly not going to help the
situation, dealing with the root
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problem, helping you figure out
what guys are all about.
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It's just going to make you
numb.
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Making you numb makes it easier
than to figure out, well, I'm
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numb because I've got anger
issues.
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I've got problems with identity
of depressed, etcetera, who may
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be depressed, etcetera.
Well, the mainstream media is
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all too happy to tell you who to
blame, that of the liberal,
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leftist Democratic activists
will tell you, these
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conservatives, they're telling
you that your lifestyle is not
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normal.
Well, guess what folks?
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Take a look here.
In the last week or two, the
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American Medical Association has
come out and now said
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transgenderism is a mental
illness.
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LGBT community, you're next.
It all is, is a mental illness.
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And the way they try to treat it
is they try to treat it by
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giving you drugs instead of
dealing with the issue, dealing
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with you, drugs that numb you up
so you don't feel anything.
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Once you don't feel anything.
Heck, I'm going to go after who
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they're telling me is causing
these problems.
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I'll go after these
conservatives.
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And that's where we're going to
see active shooters in schools,
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Christian schools, active
shooter situations in shopping
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centers and churches.
They are determined to eliminate
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what they're being told is a
threat.
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And you and I both know, Jim,
how many times have the liberal
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left us come out and say, you
know, the problem in this
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country is this, Tamara, there's
a terrorist of the white
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supremacists or supremacists.
It's all these conservatives who
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are white supremacists that are
causing all the problems.
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They're the bad people.
You got the people that are
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doped up don't know what else to
do.
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They're going after him.
And we're getting get that
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chickens are coming home to
roost.
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Michael Letts is with us.
He's the CEO and founder of
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Invest usa.org, a wonderful
organization by the way.
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And he's also a former top cop
special forces.
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The guy knows a thing or two
about this.
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I'm sure you've seen it probably
up close more than most.
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And So what about the
conversations he supposedly had
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with ChatGPT?
Any any Intel on that?
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Yeah, you know, those, those
those chats are demonstrating
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more and more to what we're
saying.
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This is a this was a plan.
This was not just some crazy
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nut.
This is a planned activity and
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it's a planned activity by a
group that are what we should
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have been calling all along.
This is what I'm calling on.
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Of course they're all going to
throw eggs at you, Jim, if you,
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if you keep this, if you don't
edit this out of your show.
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But.
I think that.
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You know, the, I think that the,
you know, these transgender,
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well, say transgenders are
putting it all in one kind of
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category, LGBT, et cetera,
should be what what they are.
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They're terrorist organizations.
They're being used to poison the
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minds of our young people and
then they're putting in the
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place of values and principles.
They're putting in the place
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hatred, and that hatred is
coming out now.
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It gets children.
Can you imagine you're shooting
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8 and 10 year old kids?
That's shocking.
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I mean, there is no more.
I can't think of anything that
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is more Those are the innocents.
Those are the ones that we are
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to protect.
We're not protecting them.
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Then you got teachers at the
public school down the road that
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are feeding children, especially
in a place like Minnesota where
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they've all but adopted.
I think it's a sanctuary city
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for trans youth.
So when you start.
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Yeah.
You take a look at the
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curriculum.
Well, what is this gender
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curriculum?
And we we know they try to make
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it sound more innocent than what
it is so that they don't get
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many parents upset.
Well.
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Of course.
But they're basically telling
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our kids, General, this is all
normal for you to decide you're
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a boy today and then you're a
girl tomorrow.
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That's all normal.
That's great.
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That's fantastic.
They're filling our kids heads
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with garbage.
And then when they get so
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confused that they start having
problems, they just handle a
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bottle of pills and say, here,
this will take care of it.
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Yeah, it loves them.
It knows with the zombies, they
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don't know what to do and
they're easily manipulated by
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the extremists as to what to do
once they get to that point.
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Well, I'm really glad that you
came on the program and and told
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us this because I don't think
that, like I often say, if you
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don't ask the right questions,
you're not going to get the
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right answers.
And right now they're questions
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they're asking is how do we dope
up kids even more?
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You know what, we got to turn
this into a mental illness issue
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where we need to make sure that
our children are monitored and
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that they're having the right
thoughts.
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And, and if they're not having
the right thoughts and they need
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to be taking their medicine.
And I'm worried about that kind
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of a slippery slope.
I know there are several major
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broadcast groups that are
celebrating Mental Illness
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Awareness Week.
Well, to me it's not mental
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illness, it's mental sickness.
There you go.
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So anyway.
And we caused it.
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That's the that's the sad part
about it.
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It's not like it's a virus that
oh, you got that way because
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there's nothing you did about
it.
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We caused the problem with this
crap work TT in our educational
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system.
Michael Letts from
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investusa.org.
It's always a pleasure to catch
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up with you, and we'll talk to
you again real soon.
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And I appreciate your input on
this very serious matter.
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America Today continues.
Dr. Carol Lieberman is up next.
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watkins.org, jimwatkins.org.
All the best highlights,
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including our interview
yesterday with Michael Letts
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where we delved into what I
thought was breaking news, but I
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don't know.
We didn't get a lot of traction,
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but we broke some news yesterday
with regard to Barack Obama.
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Yes.
And then everything got blown
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off the map with a shooting.
Yeah, Minnesota.
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Sometimes I wonder whether
they're listening.
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Listening.
Oh, we better create a story
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real quick.
I know that one's going out.
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Yeah, What do they say?
There's no coincidences.
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There's no such thing as a
coincidence.
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All right, so let's break this
down.
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Michael, you're a cop.
You know what this is all about?
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You know what all this is?
Give me your honest to goodness
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impression of how things went
down and what you think was
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behind the shooting by Rob.
I'm going to refer to him as Rob
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because that applies to Robin or
Robert.
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And God forbid me offend anyone
but Rob Westman.
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Not a not a happy guy.
No, not a happy transgender,
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that's for sure.
But let's talk about let's let's
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start off with a positive gun
about what occurred.
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You had a very rapid response
from law enforcement, and I give
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them a hats off for that.
You watch the video now, when
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they pull up on the scenes,
remember, they didn't know that
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he'd already committed suicide.
So you have an active shooter,
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you don't know where he's at,
and you have all these authors
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jumping out and rushing into the
scene.
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Most of them did not have active
shooter vests.
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So they knew that they were
putting themselves in death's
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way, not harm's way, death's
way, and willing to do it
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anyway.
So hats off to them.
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I commend their service and
thank them for doing what they
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could to protect those children.
And maybe we should send them
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some vests.
How?
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How's that?
Yes.
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There's no question that you
should need the best.
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You know what's interesting?
I'm giving people a statistic
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just to show you not only do
they need the best, you know,
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Minneapolis typically has almost
1000 officers.
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As of today, they're running
about 520.
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So that just shows you how bad
it is all across the country,
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including Minneapolis, running
at almost a 50% capacity instead
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of 100%.
Now that having been said, that
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was the positives.
What are the negatives?
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Let's talk.
We'll talk about twofold.
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We'll talk of the shooter at the
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Let's talk about the overall
negatives.
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To begin with, you had an
incident to where, once again,
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there were what we call tail
signs, signs everywhere, a
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manifesto that was put up on
social media, threats on social
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media, etcetera.
You know, I pulled the last nine
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active shooter events that we've
had.
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And by the way, I'm just going
to tell it like it is.
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You may not like it, but you're
going to have to deal with the
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facts.
Every one of the last nine were
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committed by a transgender.
Every one of the last 9, not
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just the last time, all of the
reactive shooter, which I
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remember this from years back,
have always had a telltale sign
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ahead of time.
Now, why is that important for
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me to bring that up?
We had the Federal Bureau of
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Investigation supposed to be
protecting us from domestic
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terrorism.
You try to threaten the
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president, see how quick you get
a call and see how fast
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somebody's all over you.
So don't tell me that we don't
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monitor social media because I
know we do.
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So why do when we see these tail
signs come up, there's nothing
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being done to step in to make
sure the your area that it's
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going to be done in and the
jurisdictions are where so they
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can prepare to deal with it and
thwart it from ever occurring.
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I've raised this question many
times in the past.
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Nobody's paying attention to no
bill.
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They're not doing it.
Something we're going to have to
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address.
I appreciate Cash Patel saying
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this was a hate crime.
He's exactly right because of
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the Now we're dealing with the
third aspect of government.
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The gunman has Arabic training
leanings, Muslim leanings and
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dispositions.
So this is a Muslim terrorist
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going after Christianity,
Catholics, Christians.
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We're seeing more and more of
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And how does it tie in with the
transgenders?
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Well, you know, this is what
they're doing to our young
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people.
They're telling them you, you're
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so confused, you don't even know
if you're a guy or a gal.
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We're going to give you some
drugs.
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Certainly not going to help the
situation, dealing with the root
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problem, helping you figure out
what guys are all about.
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It's just going to make you
numb.
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Making you numb makes it easier
than to figure out, well, I'm
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numb because I've got anger
issues.
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I've got problems with identity
of depressed, etcetera, who may
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be depressed, etcetera.
Well, the mainstream media is
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all too happy to tell you who to
blame, that of the liberal,
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leftist Democratic activists
will tell you, these
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conservatives, they're telling
you that your lifestyle is not
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normal.
Well, guess what folks?
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Take a look here.
In the last week or two, the
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American Medical Association has
come out and now said
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transgenderism is a mental
illness.
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LGBT community, you're next.
It all is, is a mental illness.
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And the way they try to treat it
is they try to treat it by
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giving you drugs instead of
dealing with the issue, dealing
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with you, drugs that numb you up
so you don't feel anything.
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Once you don't feel anything.
Heck, I'm going to go after who
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they're telling me is causing
these problems.
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I'll go after these
conservatives.
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And that's where we're going to
see active shooters in schools,
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Christian schools, active
shooter situations in shopping
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centers and churches.
They are determined to eliminate
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what they're being told is a
threat.
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And you and I both know, Jim,
how many times have the liberal
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left us come out and say, you
know, the problem in this
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country is this, Tamara, there's
a terrorist of the white
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supremacists or supremacists.
It's all these conservatives who
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are white supremacists that are
causing all the problems.
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They're the bad people.
You got the people that are
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doped up don't know what else to
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They're going after him.
And we're getting get that
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chickens are coming home to
roost.
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Michael Letts is with us.
He's the CEO and founder of
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Invest usa.org, a wonderful
organization by the way.
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And he's also a former top cop
special forces.
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The guy knows a thing or two
about this.
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I'm sure you've seen it probably
up close more than most.
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conversations he supposedly had
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with ChatGPT?
Any any Intel on that?
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Yeah, you know, those, those
those chats are demonstrating
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more and more to what we're
saying.
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This is a this was a plan.
This was not just some crazy
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nut.
This is a planned activity and
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it's a planned activity by a
group that are what we should
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have been calling all along.
This is what I'm calling on.
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Of course they're all going to
throw eggs at you, Jim, if you,
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if you keep this, if you don't
edit this out of your show.
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But.
I think that.
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You know, the, I think that the,
you know, these transgender,
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well, say transgenders are
putting it all in one kind of
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category, LGBT, et cetera,
should be what what they are.
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They're terrorist organizations.
They're being used to poison the
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minds of our young people and
then they're putting in the
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place of values and principles.
They're putting in the place
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hatred, and that hatred is
coming out now.
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It gets children.
Can you imagine you're shooting
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8 and 10 year old kids?
That's shocking.
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I mean, there is no more.
I can't think of anything that
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is more Those are the innocents.
Those are the ones that we are
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to protect.
We're not protecting them.
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Then you got teachers at the
public school down the road that
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are feeding children, especially
in a place like Minnesota where
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they've all but adopted.
I think it's a sanctuary city
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for trans youth.
So when you start.
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Yeah.
You take a look at the
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curriculum.
Well, what is this gender
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curriculum?
And we we know they try to make
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it sound more innocent than what
it is so that they don't get
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many parents upset.
Well.
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Of course.
But they're basically telling
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our kids, General, this is all
normal for you to decide you're
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a boy today and then you're a
girl tomorrow.
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That's all normal.
That's great.
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That's fantastic.
They're filling our kids heads
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with garbage.
And then when they get so
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confused that they start having
problems, they just handle a
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bottle of pills and say, here,
this will take care of it.
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Yeah, it loves them.
It knows with the zombies, they
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don't know what to do and
they're easily manipulated by
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the extremists as to what to do
once they get to that point.
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Well, I'm really glad that you
came on the program and and told
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us this because I don't think
that, like I often say, if you
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don't ask the right questions,
you're not going to get the
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right answers.
And right now they're questions
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they're asking is how do we dope
up kids even more?
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You know what, we got to turn
this into a mental illness issue
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where we need to make sure that
our children are monitored and
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that they're having the right
thoughts.
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And, and if they're not having
the right thoughts and they need
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to be taking their medicine.
And I'm worried about that kind
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of a slippery slope.
I know there are several major
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broadcast groups that are
celebrating Mental Illness
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Awareness Week.
Well, to me it's not mental
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illness, it's mental sickness.
There you go.
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So anyway.
And we caused it.
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That's the that's the sad part
about it.
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It's not like it's a virus that
oh, you got that way because
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there's nothing you did about
it.
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We caused the problem with this
crap work TT in our educational
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system.
Michael Letts from
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investusa.org.
It's always a pleasure to catch
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up with you, and we'll talk to
you again real soon.
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And I appreciate your input on
this very serious matter.
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America Today continues.
Dr. Carol Lieberman is up next.
