Feb. 11, 2026
Is TDS Real?
Dr. Carol joins us to discuss Trump Derangement Syndrome, and other cultural issues that plague Western society.
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All right, we are going to be
joined by Doctor Carol
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Lieberman, and we're going to
talk about Trump Derangement
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Syndrome because I'm sure you've
heard it before.
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And we want to know, you know,
is there some legitimacy to it?
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Doctor Lieberman from Los
Angeles, thank you so much.
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She did write a great book back
in 2017 called Lions and Tigers
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and Terrorists.
Oh my.
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And I thought that was a kind of
a catchy book.
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And it was basically a serious
approach to helping parents deal
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with children's stress from, you
know, what's going on in the
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news.
And in this particular case,
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terrorism was something of a
something in 2017.
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And then COVID came along.
And my goodness, Doctor
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Lieberman, you must be a very,
very busy person dealing with,
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with stress and anxiety these
days, huh?
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Well.
Yes, of course, you know, when
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COVID came, that is, that's why,
I mean, it was, you know, the
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lockdowns were horrible and all
that.
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But the one silver lining to it
is that besides that, we parents
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got to see what's really being
taught in schools.
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That's a silver lining.
But also because we weren't out
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at concerts and things like
that, there weren't more terror
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attacks.
Not big ones anyway, at least
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not in America.
But we are at the brink.
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You know, we've been on on the
brink for a long time.
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We just had this, this respite
because of, of the lockdowns.
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But we are we are more in danger
today of terror attacks than we
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were on 9/11.
No question about that.
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There's a lot more tension
coming from all sides.
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And there's no question I, I
almost want to split this
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interview in two because I've
not actually talked to a psycho
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psychiatrist since the COVID
about the effects that COVID had
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on society.
And I sometimes think that many
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of us, it was, it was horrible
doctor, because I saw people
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that I loved and I thought I
knew.
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And then what the Trump thing
and everything else that's
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happened.
It's it, there's something that
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has completely changed in the
United States in the last five
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years.
Would you agree with that?
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It's different now.
Yes, yes.
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Nobody wants to really talk
about or acknowledge that things
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have changed because of COVID,
starting with COVID.
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But there's a kind of, there's a
first of all, the first thing is
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more awareness of our mortality.
And that has affected us in a
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lot of ways, none of them good.
Well, I mean, in a, in a way
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it's, you know, it's, it's
always good to have a, to
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realize that life is, is
precious and short and all of
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that.
And therefore you should, you
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know, accomplish things and, and
not sit around and, and wait
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around to, to accomplish things.
But the impact it has had.
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The other side of that is I'm
making people think I have
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nothing left to lose, like I'm
going to die soon or sooner than
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I thought.
And and that is is at the root
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of a lot of the violence that's
going on.
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That plus the fact that during
COVID a lot, because people were
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home, they watched a lot of
people played a lot more hours
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of violent video games than they
ever had before.
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And studies going back decades
show that the more violent media
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you consume, especially video
games, the more aggressive you
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become.
So we come out of COVID and
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instead of it being, you know,
the, the, and the sun soaked,
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you know, wonderful Nirvana,
heaven and all of that, that we
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were told it was going to be.
Instead, people are like we, we
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have road rage, we have air
rage, We have more rage than we
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ever had before.
And it's not a coincidence.
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Plus, of course, the rage is
that the government for for
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making us locked down in the 1st
place and for making us take the
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vaccines, which I never actually
took.
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I didn't let my daughter take,
but a lot of people did.
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And now we realize how dangerous
they really are.
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You know, because of the.
Well, some of us have.
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That's the the thing.
There are still a good.
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It's interesting you bring that
because I still know people who
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have no qualms about going in
getting their booster and they
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have no qualms about the fact
that there's been reports of
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super cancers now and more
people are getting sick more
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often.
It's like they're in denial.
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And that's what makes me think
that a lot of us are suffering
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from Stockholm syndrome.
And in this case, the government
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is the perpetrator and we are
are are we?
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We still have this great immense
trust in our institutions when
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clearly COVID showed us that
they were not trustworthy at
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all.
Right.
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Well, hopefully Fauci will be in
jail at some point.
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Too I.
Find it a website.
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I had a website during the
during COVID please fire please
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fire foundry.com and I listed
all the reasons why and I listed
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my my prescription for America.
The the things that people
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needed to do to get themselves
healthy instead of taking the
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vaccine.
Is it still up?
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No, actually, we took it.
Darn.
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I know.
I why shouldn't have taken a
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chance.
Yeah.
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You shouldn't have I mean, we're
still living the nightmare, you
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know, in some places, but listen
to our folks all over, all
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across the country that are
listening.
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You know, we don't like the
division, the people on the, my,
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my honest assessment is people
who are for Trump really do have
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a, you know, I'm not saying that
people don't, but the, the, the
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MAGA crowd seems to understand
the gravity of the situation of
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how our government is sort of
metastasized into something that
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works against us.
And we see examples of us even
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this week when we find out that,
you know, Obama conspired with a
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group of his his inner circle to
undermine the president, which
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is not what you're supposed to
do when you're an elected
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official.
But what is with the Trump
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arrangements?
That is because we all sat
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around and we could watch like
during COVID and all that, and
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we were just fed a nightly menu
of I mean, is this like an
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Orwellian thing like a Samuel
Emanuel Goldstein where we many
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people have just been
brainwashed to hate well.
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I don't think Trump can really
be blamed for for for COVID or
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for what happened.
I mean.
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He was not necessarily him, but
just it was during that period
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where he was in office and, you
know, a lot of us sat around and
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watch TV and we were absorbed by
the news.
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And he's an interesting,
fascinating guy.
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But where what I'm trying to I
guess, ask you is where does all
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this hatred, this innate hatred
come from?
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Is it?
Is it really?
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A disorder, yes, I I can explain
that to you.
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I don't really relate that to
COVID, although I mean, because
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the four years of Biden has, you
know, I mean, that was, I mean,
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really Trump wasn't man
mandating these vaccines.
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It was.
It was I.
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Just meant that it was during
COVID, you know, there are a lot
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more people were playing video
games where a lot more people
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were watching TV.
That's that's my only correct.
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I don't yes.
Yes, yes, yeah.
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I'm I'm just asking where did
this hatred come from?
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Well, they actually it, it did
start there was Trump
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Derangement Syndrome in Trump's
first term.
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But you know, that was when we
were, and I even talked about
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that in the media, but it was
kind of more of a kind of
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laughter sort of thing.
It wasn't like a a super serious
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thing at that point.
I mean, some people thought of
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it more seriously, but but in
terms of society, it wasn't
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having that much of an impact on
society.
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But in this time around during
the campaign, you know, from the
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time he started running again
this time, well, I mean, also of
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course in the the last time, but
but then he didn't supposedly
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didn't win.
And, but it's really come about
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and it's it's flourished during
the campaign for this term.
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And where it comes from, it
comes from people not being
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happy.
Well, first of all, let me give
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you the definition, my
definition of it.
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And, and let me preface this by
saying that I have been working
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on this for months now, putting
together a diagnostic criteria
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proposal with diagnostic
criteria for Trump Derangement
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Syndrome to send to the American
Psychiatric Association, who
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writes every several years a
book called the Diagnostic and
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Statistical Manual.
Sure, it's like a Dictionary of
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of psychiatric disorders and so
that's why I, you know, have
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been spending such a long time
on it getting getting the
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classifying A mild case, a
moderate case and a severe case.
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But but the definition is an
irrational, quasi psychotic
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hatred of anything Trump
resulting in rage and over the
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top efforts to destroy him and
his work.
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And this can spread to people
who are closely associated with
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him.
I mean, we saw, for example, the
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madness of about the Teslas and
also, you know, how JD Vance was
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blamed for the death of Pope
Francis and all of that.
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My guess is Doctor Carol
Lieberman.
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We're talking about Trump
Derangement Syndrome.
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Who has it, And when we get
back, how do we fix it?
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Coming up, America Today
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All right, we are going to be
joined by Doctor Carol
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Lieberman, and we're going to
talk about Trump Derangement
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Syndrome because I'm sure you've
heard it before.
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And we want to know, you know,
is there some legitimacy to it?
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Doctor Lieberman from Los
Angeles, thank you so much.
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She did write a great book back
in 2017 called Lions and Tigers
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and Terrorists.
Oh my.
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And I thought that was a kind of
a catchy book.
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And it was basically a serious
approach to helping parents deal
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with children's stress from, you
know, what's going on in the
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news.
And in this particular case,
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terrorism was something of a
something in 2017.
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And then COVID came along.
And my goodness, Doctor
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Lieberman, you must be a very,
very busy person dealing with,
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with stress and anxiety these
days, huh?
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Well.
Yes, of course, you know, when
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COVID came, that is, that's why,
I mean, it was, you know, the
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lockdowns were horrible and all
that.
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But the one silver lining to it
is that besides that, we parents
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got to see what's really being
taught in schools.
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That's a silver lining.
But also because we weren't out
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at concerts and things like
that, there weren't more terror
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attacks.
Not big ones anyway, at least
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not in America.
But we are at the brink.
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You know, we've been on on the
brink for a long time.
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We just had this, this respite
because of, of the lockdowns.
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But we are we are more in danger
today of terror attacks than we
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were on 9/11.
No question about that.
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There's a lot more tension
coming from all sides.
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And there's no question I, I
almost want to split this
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interview in two because I've
not actually talked to a psycho
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psychiatrist since the COVID
about the effects that COVID had
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on society.
And I sometimes think that many
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of us, it was, it was horrible
doctor, because I saw people
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that I loved and I thought I
knew.
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And then what the Trump thing
and everything else that's
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happened.
It's it, there's something that
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has completely changed in the
United States in the last five
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years.
Would you agree with that?
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It's different now.
Yes, yes.
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Nobody wants to really talk
about or acknowledge that things
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have changed because of COVID,
starting with COVID.
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But there's a kind of, there's a
first of all, the first thing is
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more awareness of our mortality.
And that has affected us in a
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lot of ways, none of them good.
Well, I mean, in a, in a way
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it's, you know, it's, it's
always good to have a, to
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realize that life is, is
precious and short and all of
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that.
And therefore you should, you
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know, accomplish things and, and
not sit around and, and wait
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around to, to accomplish things.
But the impact it has had.
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The other side of that is I'm
making people think I have
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nothing left to lose, like I'm
going to die soon or sooner than
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I thought.
And and that is is at the root
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of a lot of the violence that's
going on.
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That plus the fact that during
COVID a lot, because people were
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home, they watched a lot of
people played a lot more hours
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of violent video games than they
ever had before.
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And studies going back decades
show that the more violent media
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you consume, especially video
games, the more aggressive you
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become.
So we come out of COVID and
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instead of it being, you know,
the, the, and the sun soaked,
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you know, wonderful Nirvana,
heaven and all of that, that we
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were told it was going to be.
Instead, people are like we, we
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have road rage, we have air
rage, We have more rage than we
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ever had before.
And it's not a coincidence.
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Plus, of course, the rage is
that the government for for
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making us locked down in the 1st
place and for making us take the
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vaccines, which I never actually
took.
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I didn't let my daughter take,
but a lot of people did.
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And now we realize how dangerous
they really are.
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You know, because of the.
Well, some of us have.
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That's the the thing.
There are still a good.
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It's interesting you bring that
because I still know people who
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have no qualms about going in
getting their booster and they
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have no qualms about the fact
that there's been reports of
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super cancers now and more
people are getting sick more
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often.
It's like they're in denial.
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And that's what makes me think
that a lot of us are suffering
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from Stockholm syndrome.
And in this case, the government
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is the perpetrator and we are
are are we?
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We still have this great immense
trust in our institutions when
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clearly COVID showed us that
they were not trustworthy at
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all.
Right.
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Well, hopefully Fauci will be in
jail at some point.
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Too I.
Find it a website.
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I had a website during the
during COVID please fire please
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fire foundry.com and I listed
all the reasons why and I listed
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my my prescription for America.
The the things that people
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needed to do to get themselves
healthy instead of taking the
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vaccine.
Is it still up?
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No, actually, we took it.
Darn.
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I know.
I why shouldn't have taken a
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chance.
Yeah.
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You shouldn't have I mean, we're
still living the nightmare, you
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know, in some places, but listen
to our folks all over, all
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across the country that are
listening.
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You know, we don't like the
division, the people on the, my,
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my honest assessment is people
who are for Trump really do have
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a, you know, I'm not saying that
people don't, but the, the, the
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MAGA crowd seems to understand
the gravity of the situation of
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how our government is sort of
metastasized into something that
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works against us.
And we see examples of us even
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this week when we find out that,
you know, Obama conspired with a
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group of his his inner circle to
undermine the president, which
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is not what you're supposed to
do when you're an elected
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official.
But what is with the Trump
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arrangements?
That is because we all sat
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around and we could watch like
during COVID and all that, and
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we were just fed a nightly menu
of I mean, is this like an
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Orwellian thing like a Samuel
Emanuel Goldstein where we many
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people have just been
brainwashed to hate well.
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I don't think Trump can really
be blamed for for for COVID or
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for what happened.
I mean.
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He was not necessarily him, but
just it was during that period
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where he was in office and, you
know, a lot of us sat around and
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watch TV and we were absorbed by
the news.
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And he's an interesting,
fascinating guy.
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But where what I'm trying to I
guess, ask you is where does all
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this hatred, this innate hatred
come from?
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Is it?
Is it really?
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A disorder, yes, I I can explain
that to you.
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I don't really relate that to
COVID, although I mean, because
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the four years of Biden has, you
know, I mean, that was, I mean,
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really Trump wasn't man
mandating these vaccines.
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It was.
It was I.
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Just meant that it was during
COVID, you know, there are a lot
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more people were playing video
games where a lot more people
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were watching TV.
That's that's my only correct.
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I don't yes.
Yes, yes, yeah.
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I'm I'm just asking where did
this hatred come from?
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Well, they actually it, it did
start there was Trump
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Derangement Syndrome in Trump's
first term.
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But you know, that was when we
were, and I even talked about
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that in the media, but it was
kind of more of a kind of
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laughter sort of thing.
It wasn't like a a super serious
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thing at that point.
I mean, some people thought of
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it more seriously, but but in
terms of society, it wasn't
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having that much of an impact on
society.
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But in this time around during
the campaign, you know, from the
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time he started running again
this time, well, I mean, also of
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course in the the last time, but
but then he didn't supposedly
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didn't win.
And, but it's really come about
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and it's it's flourished during
the campaign for this term.
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And where it comes from, it
comes from people not being
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happy.
Well, first of all, let me give
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you the definition, my
definition of it.
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And, and let me preface this by
saying that I have been working
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on this for months now, putting
together a diagnostic criteria
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proposal with diagnostic
criteria for Trump Derangement
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Syndrome to send to the American
Psychiatric Association, who
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writes every several years a
book called the Diagnostic and
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Statistical Manual.
Sure, it's like a Dictionary of
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of psychiatric disorders and so
that's why I, you know, have
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been spending such a long time
on it getting getting the
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classifying A mild case, a
moderate case and a severe case.
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But but the definition is an
irrational, quasi psychotic
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hatred of anything Trump
resulting in rage and over the
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top efforts to destroy him and
his work.
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And this can spread to people
who are closely associated with
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him.
I mean, we saw, for example, the
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madness of about the Teslas and
also, you know, how JD Vance was
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blamed for the death of Pope
Francis and all of that.
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My guess is Doctor Carol
Lieberman.
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We're talking about Trump
Derangement Syndrome.
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Who has it, And when we get
back, how do we fix it?
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Coming up, America Today
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