July 29, 2025
Exclusive - Why Trump Really Kicked Epstein Out of Mar-a-Lago
The breaking news here is what President Trump didn't say about why Jeffrey Epstein was persona-non-grata at Mar-a-Lago. In this stunning reveal, the facts shed light on what really happened between Trump and Epstein in 2009.
Plus, growing concerns over the rise of roving violent gangs in U.S. cities, like in Cincinnati, where a married couple were beaten to a pulp in public view.
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All right, welcome back to
America TODAY.
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Jim Watkins.
I'm your host.
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Don't forget the podcast you can
find on Spotify or any podcast
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platform.
And you can also go to the
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website jimwatkins.org.
And we are talking with Michael
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Letts.
He is the Invest usa.org founder
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and CEO, an organization that
provides life protecting best
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for law enforcement and 1st
responders.
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And we're talking about the news
and of course we talked about
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the New York shooter.
I want to make a couple of
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points here.
It's interesting that CNN was
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hesitant to identify the shooter
as being black.
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In fact, they actually made a
point, went out of the way to
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say he was white when clearly he
was not white.
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But then there was another case
where this couple, I don't know
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if it was Philadelphia maybe or
maybe maybe somewhere in that
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area and they were beaten by a
bunch of rowdy teens.
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And we're starting to see a lot
of rowdy teen gangs all over the
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place.
They just picked their targets,
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right?
It's been going on for a couple
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years.
And and they down the media
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downplayed it not as a hate
crime, which is what I think it
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was because this couple of this
man, this husband was getting
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beaten.
And I'm not sure what the
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motivation was.
Wrong place, wrong time.
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And and then when the wife tried
to defend her husband, they all
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beat her to a pulp and it's all
caught on video.
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And that's not a hate crime.
I don't understand.
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Exactly right it was.
It was in Cincinnati, OH.
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And Cincinnati.
I've looked at the footage and
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quite frankly, they were walking
through a mob area, shall we
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say.
But this is what I want you to
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be aware of.
This is not a one time instance.
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It has occurred.
They have covered it up.
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It occurs almost weekly in
Cincinnati and we are getting
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the attention to the
administration.
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We would not tolerate that.
We will send in federal
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authorities if we have to.
Yeah, and we're seeing more of
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it.
You were talking earlier, you
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know, you are also a chaplain.
And I hope you don't mind me
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disclosing that you are a man of
the cloth, a man of God.
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And, and you also occasionally
will give sermon at your local
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church in your neighborhood,
which is wonderful.
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But what do you tell the young
kids today?
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And what do you see?
Do you see less young kids
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showing up?
You see a lot less young kids
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showing up, although I would
tell you in the last three or
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four months, it's beginning to
be reversed.
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They're beginning to come more.
We're putting a greater outreach
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for them.
And why do I think that's the
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case?
I think you've had 4 1/2 years
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of realizing just when there's
no respect for anything, when
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there are no values or
principles, how degenerate life
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can become because they can be
the next victim.
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Just walking down the street,
you happen to turn the corner,
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you're in the wrong place at the
wrong time.
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You could just not be that of
you for no reason.
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So they're beginning to to to
question and I'm beginning to
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say, is this what life is all
about?
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Is there something better?
And so I'm encouraged by that,
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but I, it's going to be a long
road.
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Just like I was telling the
previous show earlier today, we
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were talking about New York.
This, the level of the depravity
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and corruption that we have
allowed this country to fall to,
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is going to take time to turn it
around.
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Well, it has to start somewhere
and at some time, you know,
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people are getting disenchanted
with their government, maybe
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with their institutions, and
they have a right to be pissed.
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By the way, I think that most
people today watching how the
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supposedly the powerful and the
elite and the way they behave
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with each other, protecting each
other, issuing lies and
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propaganda.
Big news came out of San
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Francisco.
I think it was or maybe.
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Yeah.
A pilot got arrested as soon as
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a Delta airline.
Turns out he was involved in
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child abuse porn.
It was an interesting twist to
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this as one of the airline
passengers on that plane, a
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woman and probably her name was
Karen, she thought that it was
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an ice arrest and she she tried
to intervene telling let that
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man go.
He's turns out he's he's into
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child porn, but there's a big
something must have happened
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recently where think something
was exposed.
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Is there some background to this
Dragna that's going on across
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the country with people who are
in?
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Child porn, yes, we have
targeted made that one of our
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our primary objectives was to
destroy the pedophilia ring,
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which is one of the largest in
the world here in America.
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And I used to say it was just
because we were a pastor.
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We're more than a pastor now and
that's that is just really
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corrupted and abusing.
Used to be when I said the
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pastor, you take all the illegal
immigrant kids and run them
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through, put them on the black
market.
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Now there's now they're
kidnapping and taking our
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children as well, which we
expected.
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That's just how that industry
grows.
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And so you have seen how we have
done more child sex trafficking
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operations in the last six
months than I think have been
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done in decades combined.
And so we are making sure we
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target because every time we hit
one, we get a drug drove of
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names and targets where they're
at.
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We go and rescue the kids.
We go up and pick up more than
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involved in this.
It's international, but we're
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going to break it, I can assure
you.
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All right, let's move on because
we're our time is short.
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I want you to listen to this
clip.
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This is from attorney Brad
Edwards.
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He represented over 200 of Jeff
Jeffrey Epstein's victims.
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Here's what he had to say about
Donald Trump.
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I can say about President Trump
is that he is the only person
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who in 2009, when I served a lot
of subpoenas on a lot of people
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or at least gave notice to some
pretty connected people that I
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was going that I wanted to talk
to them.
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He is the only person who picked
up the phone and said, let's
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just talk.
I'll give you as much time as
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you want.
I'll tell you what you need to
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know.
And was very helpful in the
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information that he gave and
gave no indication whatsoever
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that he was involved in anything
untoward whatsoever, but had
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good information that checked
out and that helped us and that
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we didn't have to take a
deposition of him.
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That was in 2009.
That was in 2009 it.
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Said it doesn't sound like a
guilty man to me but I also want
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to ask you a question Yesterday
there was an entanglement about
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Trump saying that he never went
to the island where Epstein's
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island and somebody brought up
the point that Epstein used used
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to come to Mera Lago and then he
got kicked out persona non grata
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for hassling his employees.
Is it not true that the real
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distinguishing thing that in and
Trump has not said it publicly,
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but a member of his own family
was approached by Epstein and
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that's what what broke their
relationship up?
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Because you're not hearing it.
And it made me think Trump is
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protecting a member of his
family by not telling that
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story.
But if people knew that story,
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they would understand exactly
what the relationship is between
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Epstein and Trump.
You are accurate.
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And here is the situation
because of the fact that I've
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seen Jeffrey was a member of the
club before his background was
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known.
And you remember this gets back
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into how he was organized.
It was definitely intelligence
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agencies, not just here but
abroad.
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They were funding all these
operations and he was a member
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there.
And of course, he used that
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membership to approach
especially there are a lot of
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young girls that work there at
the at the club in terms of
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towel, you know, I mean, you
forget the golf shop, etcetera,
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etcetera.
And I, he did talk to one of
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the, you know, presidents,
family members approached it and
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that's all it took and would be
the same for you.
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And I you messed with one of my
daughters and try.
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I mean you don't even get the
chance to even make an attempt
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at it.
You better be glad you got out
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with your life.
Yeah, yeah.
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And that's the story that that
the news press, you're hearing
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this if you're listening to this
show, you're not hearing this
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anywhere else.
But that I think is the the
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background that that Trump is
using discretion, which again,
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is the better part of valor.
All right, So we don't have a
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lot of time to talk about the
Obama gate, which I want to get
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to.
But the good news is Michael
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Letts will be back on Wednesday
and continue with the update on
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what's happening in our national
security.
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Got about a minute?
What's on your radar, Michael?
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The biggest thing radar right
now is, quite frankly, we have
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to make sure that we as
Americans begin to unite behind
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righteousness.
And here's what I mean by that.
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You're taking a look every day
almost now, stabbing shootings,
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mass shootings, etcetera.
Folks, we've become a very
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violent country because we've
allowed the mainstream media to
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lie to us, to tell us America's
bad, America's evil, when it's
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not.
And it's time for reunite.
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Remember, we're all Americans
and we want one thing.
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We want a place that we can
raise our children.
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You can't raise children in a
place that doesn't have values
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and principles.
We're going to have to go after
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our educational system.
We have to free it from the
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unions, and we're going to have
to make sure that we allow it to
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teach our children to be
responsible.
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God bless you, Jim, and God
Bless America.
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All right.
Thank you, Michael.
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Let's with us.
He'll be back tomorrow at the
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same time you're listening to
America TODAY.
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All right, welcome back to
America TODAY.
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Jim Watkins.
I'm your host.
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Don't forget the podcast you can
find on Spotify or any podcast
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platform.
And you can also go to the
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website jimwatkins.org.
And we are talking with Michael
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Letts.
He is the Invest usa.org founder
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and CEO, an organization that
provides life protecting best
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for law enforcement and 1st
responders.
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And we're talking about the news
and of course we talked about
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the New York shooter.
I want to make a couple of
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points here.
It's interesting that CNN was
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hesitant to identify the shooter
as being black.
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In fact, they actually made a
point, went out of the way to
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say he was white when clearly he
was not white.
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But then there was another case
where this couple, I don't know
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if it was Philadelphia maybe or
maybe maybe somewhere in that
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area and they were beaten by a
bunch of rowdy teens.
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And we're starting to see a lot
of rowdy teen gangs all over the
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place.
They just picked their targets,
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right?
It's been going on for a couple
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years.
And and they down the media
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downplayed it not as a hate
crime, which is what I think it
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was because this couple of this
man, this husband was getting
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beaten.
And I'm not sure what the
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motivation was.
Wrong place, wrong time.
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And and then when the wife tried
to defend her husband, they all
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beat her to a pulp and it's all
caught on video.
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And that's not a hate crime.
I don't understand.
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Exactly right it was.
It was in Cincinnati, OH.
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And Cincinnati.
I've looked at the footage and
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quite frankly, they were walking
through a mob area, shall we
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say.
But this is what I want you to
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be aware of.
This is not a one time instance.
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It has occurred.
They have covered it up.
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It occurs almost weekly in
Cincinnati and we are getting
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the attention to the
administration.
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We would not tolerate that.
We will send in federal
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authorities if we have to.
Yeah, and we're seeing more of
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it.
You were talking earlier, you
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know, you are also a chaplain.
And I hope you don't mind me
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disclosing that you are a man of
the cloth, a man of God.
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And, and you also occasionally
will give sermon at your local
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church in your neighborhood,
which is wonderful.
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But what do you tell the young
kids today?
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And what do you see?
Do you see less young kids
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showing up?
You see a lot less young kids
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showing up, although I would
tell you in the last three or
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four months, it's beginning to
be reversed.
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They're beginning to come more.
We're putting a greater outreach
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for them.
And why do I think that's the
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case?
I think you've had 4 1/2 years
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of realizing just when there's
no respect for anything, when
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there are no values or
principles, how degenerate life
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can become because they can be
the next victim.
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Just walking down the street,
you happen to turn the corner,
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you're in the wrong place at the
wrong time.
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You could just not be that of
you for no reason.
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question and I'm beginning to
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say, is this what life is all
about?
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Is there something better?
And so I'm encouraged by that,
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but I, it's going to be a long
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Just like I was telling the
previous show earlier today, we
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were talking about New York.
This, the level of the depravity
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and corruption that we have
allowed this country to fall to,
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is going to take time to turn it
around.
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Well, it has to start somewhere
and at some time, you know,
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people are getting disenchanted
with their government, maybe
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with their institutions, and
they have a right to be pissed.
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By the way, I think that most
people today watching how the
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supposedly the powerful and the
elite and the way they behave
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with each other, protecting each
other, issuing lies and
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propaganda.
Big news came out of San
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Francisco.
I think it was or maybe.
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Yeah.
A pilot got arrested as soon as
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a Delta airline.
Turns out he was involved in
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child abuse porn.
It was an interesting twist to
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this as one of the airline
passengers on that plane, a
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woman and probably her name was
Karen, she thought that it was
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an ice arrest and she she tried
to intervene telling let that
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man go.
He's turns out he's he's into
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child porn, but there's a big
something must have happened
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recently where think something
was exposed.
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Is there some background to this
Dragna that's going on across
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the country with people who are
in?
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Child porn, yes, we have
targeted made that one of our
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our primary objectives was to
destroy the pedophilia ring,
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which is one of the largest in
the world here in America.
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And I used to say it was just
because we were a pastor.
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We're more than a pastor now and
that's that is just really
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corrupted and abusing.
Used to be when I said the
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pastor, you take all the illegal
immigrant kids and run them
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through, put them on the black
market.
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Now there's now they're
kidnapping and taking our
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children as well, which we
expected.
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That's just how that industry
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And so you have seen how we have
done more child sex trafficking
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operations in the last six
months than I think have been
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done in decades combined.
And so we are making sure we
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target because every time we hit
one, we get a drug drove of
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names and targets where they're
at.
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We go and rescue the kids.
We go up and pick up more than
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involved in this.
It's international, but we're
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going to break it, I can assure
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All right, let's move on because
we're our time is short.
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I want you to listen to this
clip.
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This is from attorney Brad
Edwards.
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He represented over 200 of Jeff
Jeffrey Epstein's victims.
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Here's what he had to say about
Donald Trump.
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I can say about President Trump
is that he is the only person
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who in 2009, when I served a lot
of subpoenas on a lot of people
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or at least gave notice to some
pretty connected people that I
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was going that I wanted to talk
to them.
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He is the only person who picked
up the phone and said, let's
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just talk.
I'll give you as much time as
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you want.
I'll tell you what you need to
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know.
And was very helpful in the
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information that he gave and
gave no indication whatsoever
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that he was involved in anything
untoward whatsoever, but had
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good information that checked
out and that helped us and that
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we didn't have to take a
deposition of him.
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That was in 2009.
That was in 2009 it.
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Said it doesn't sound like a
guilty man to me but I also want
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to ask you a question Yesterday
there was an entanglement about
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Trump saying that he never went
to the island where Epstein's
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island and somebody brought up
the point that Epstein used used
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to come to Mera Lago and then he
got kicked out persona non grata
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for hassling his employees.
Is it not true that the real
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distinguishing thing that in and
Trump has not said it publicly,
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but a member of his own family
was approached by Epstein and
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that's what what broke their
relationship up?
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Because you're not hearing it.
And it made me think Trump is
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protecting a member of his
family by not telling that
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story.
But if people knew that story,
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they would understand exactly
what the relationship is between
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Epstein and Trump.
You are accurate.
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And here is the situation
because of the fact that I've
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seen Jeffrey was a member of the
club before his background was
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known.
And you remember this gets back
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into how he was organized.
It was definitely intelligence
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agencies, not just here but
abroad.
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They were funding all these
operations and he was a member
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there.
And of course, he used that
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membership to approach
especially there are a lot of
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young girls that work there at
the at the club in terms of
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towel, you know, I mean, you
forget the golf shop, etcetera,
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etcetera.
And I, he did talk to one of
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the, you know, presidents,
family members approached it and
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that's all it took and would be
the same for you.
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And I you messed with one of my
daughters and try.
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I mean you don't even get the
chance to even make an attempt
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at it.
You better be glad you got out
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with your life.
Yeah, yeah.
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And that's the story that that
the news press, you're hearing
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this if you're listening to this
show, you're not hearing this
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anywhere else.
But that I think is the the
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background that that Trump is
using discretion, which again,
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is the better part of valor.
All right, So we don't have a
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lot of time to talk about the
Obama gate, which I want to get
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to.
But the good news is Michael
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Letts will be back on Wednesday
and continue with the update on
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what's happening in our national
security.
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Got about a minute?
What's on your radar, Michael?
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The biggest thing radar right
now is, quite frankly, we have
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to make sure that we as
Americans begin to unite behind
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righteousness.
And here's what I mean by that.
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You're taking a look every day
almost now, stabbing shootings,
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mass shootings, etcetera.
Folks, we've become a very
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violent country because we've
allowed the mainstream media to
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lie to us, to tell us America's
bad, America's evil, when it's
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not.
And it's time for reunite.
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Remember, we're all Americans
and we want one thing.
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We want a place that we can
raise our children.
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You can't raise children in a
place that doesn't have values
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and principles.
We're going to have to go after
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our educational system.
We have to free it from the
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unions, and we're going to have
to make sure that we allow it to
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teach our children to be
responsible.
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God bless you, Jim, and God
Bless America.
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All right.
Thank you, Michael.
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Let's with us.
He'll be back tomorrow at the
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