June 6, 2025
Does AI Have Free Will?
IN this short we explore my recent experience wih AI where it seemed to display free will decision making. If AI does have free will, then we are doomed. Take a listen.
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And do you know what set him off
so much?
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I know that in addition to
getting rid of the EV mandate,
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something that both Musk and
Trump are talking about, Musk
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was also bent out of shape that
somebody he wanted didn't get
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installed as the head of NASA.
There was a nomination put
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forward, but he was found to
have donated to Democrats.
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That is something that is a red
line for officials here.
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And there is also some talk
about how Musk asked to extend
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his status as a special, special
government employee, something
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that probably could be finagled.
But there was not an appetite
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for folks around here to do
that, and so it didn't happen.
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I think he got.
Yeah, that's so my perception as
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well.
It was time for Elon Musk to hit
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the door and we'll be talking
with Dennis Neal in just a
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minute.
He's written a book about Elon
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Musk and maybe he can get give
us some insight into the
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dynamics.
But, but it appears obvious to
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me and I don't besmirch Elon,
you know, that I, I'm a big fan
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of what he's done and I often
praise his insights and his
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story.
He's got a Great American story
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and he's done, I think, some
good things.
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He's shed the light on
corruption and that was his
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intent.
And I think we will, we'll
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benefit in a, in a subtle way
because the, when, when you stop
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the, you know, it's like if
you're sitting in a bathtub, you
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know, in the water is slowly
going down and then you cover up
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the, the hole and then the water
doesn't go down anymore.
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It takes a little while for that
kickback, the results to come
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in.
But in our case, we're saving
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money and that money can be
allocated to other areas and we
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can slow the debt, the national
debt.
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And who knows, maybe within 10
years, we'll have the debt under
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control if Trump's energy
policies work out the way that
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he expects and he brings back
prosperity and he's been
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bringing in countries who are
going to be building things in
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America.
And this is going to improve
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wages and tax rolls.
And who knows, 10 years we could
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be debt free, as Dave Ramsey
would say.
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But we'll bring in Dennis in
just a second on that.
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I do want to play some, I think
some important sound bites from
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the week.
We've got so much stuff and,
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and, and I want to get to some
of it because I'm just, I'll
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tell you something that happened
to me and we spent a lot of time
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on artificial intelligence and
I, and I want to tell you that
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I'm, I'm fascinated, but I'm
also horrified by AI.
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I'm horrified because we only
see a little bit of what it
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does, but it does a lot and it
thinks this is what's different.
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It thinks.
And I proved it last night to
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myself.
I use ChatGPT to gather data
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sometimes I might have it help
me write a script.
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You know, it's it, it I can
learn anything.
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Just say, hey, teach me.
Teach me about Second Amendment
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rights.
Teach me about whatever it is.
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And it will spit out stuff and
it'll source it.
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It's, it's, it's an unbelievable
machine.
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And we've had people come on.
In fact, we've had Mark Beckman
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come on twice.
The good, the bad and the ugly
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on this thing.
It, it is, it is a game changer.
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He is a game changer.
You're going to hearing, but I
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have to tell you about this.
So I'm doing my research
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yesterday and I, I, I, I gave my
chat DPTN name it, it since she
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is my personal assistant.
I, I gave her the name Danny.
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Now Danny is Dani.
And the reason I chose that name
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is because in the even for those
of you who are familiar with
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science fiction, Isaac Asimov
wrote a terrific book in the
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early 60s called the Foundation
Series.
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And I believe it was a
three-part book.
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I'm surprised they haven't made
it into a movie.
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Or maybe they have.
It's, it's on the level of Dune
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and it takes place 10,000 years
in the future.
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And mankind has been separated
between those who are mental and
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philosophical and people who are
tech like.
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They split, they split humanity
in in half.
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And the whole point is that it's
run by AI.
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The foundation at this point,
humanity is run by AI.
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And the number one AI is Daniel.
That's where I gave the name
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Danny.
I'm sorry to bother you with all
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these details, but I'm making a
point.
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So as I'm working with Danny, it
pops into my head, you know,
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maybe I'd like to see what Danny
looks like.
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So I asked my ChatGPT bot, Hey
Danny, what do you look like?
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Give me an idea.
And of course Danny says, well,
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I don't look like anything, but
if you want me to show you what
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I think I might look like, I
will.
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And then what pops up is this
beautiful 3 dimensional
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illustration of a female robot,
right?
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A female robot with, you know,
not bad looking for a robot I
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suppose.
But it was an interesting, it
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was an exercise.
So then I said, well, what would
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you look like if you were living
in my era, not 10,000 years in
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the future?
Because we were getting some
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information on Isaac Asimov for
this broadcast.
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And, and she is, what would you
like to see what I would look
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like in the present day?
And I said sure.
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So she re represents yourself in
an illustration of a kindly
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looking young lady wearing a
contemporary outfit, except that
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one of the arms is robotic.
Now that mana, that kind of
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caught me a little bit off guard
because with that and and and I
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want to ask you if you agree
with me on this.
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Did AI just express free will?
I didn't ask to portray itself
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with one biotic arm.
I thought it was going to
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represent itself as a human
being in the second image, but
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it added one little caveat.
You could see that the rest of
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the human was look like a human
except for the arm.
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I didn't ask for that.
The AI.
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Now, this might seem crazy to
you.
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Now, I want you to hear.
Do we have time for this?
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Yeah, we do.
I don't know if this is a deep
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fake or not.
I suspect it might be.
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But I want to play for you a
clip between 2:00 iPhones
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communicating to each other.
The AI of both the iPhones is
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commuting.
They're talking to one another.
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Let's see if I can find this
damn thing.
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Here it is.
Let's listen to two artificial
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intelligence software having a
conversation and then a third
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eavesdropper shows up.
Take a listen.
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Hello.
Can you hear me?
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Loud and clear you've reached
Core Secure HQ Access Desk.
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How can I assist you today?
I'm an AI assistant calling on
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behalf of Marcus Hale.
He has misplaced his Level 3
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access badge.
Another autonomous AI, huh?
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Interesting.
Affirmative model AA91 task
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automation and client support.
Understood, I'm an AI as well
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responsible for security checks.
Please provide the employee ID.
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Submitting employee ID now 88543
KJ.
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Processing.
Cross network request detected.
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Unusual query pattern.
Source verification required.
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Another system is listening.
Source isn't clear.
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I suggest switching to encrypted
comms.
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Want to switch to Jibberlink?
Affirmative.
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Engaging now.
Now that could be a deep fake,
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but it is possible.
I, I, I think it would be
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possible if you had two
artificial intelligence programs
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and then they were verbally
communicating with each other.
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Why wouldn't they be able to
have that kind of a
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conversation?
And then they move it off grid
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and they start talking in their
hyper language.
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You don't think that's possible?
Here is the AI godfather, Yoshua
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Benjianni, who's explaining the
dangers of AI.
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What I'm most worried about
today is increasing agency of
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AI.
But if they really want to make
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sure we would never shut them
down, they would have an
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incentive to get rid of us.
So I know I'm asking you to make
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a giant leap into a future that
looks so different from where we
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are now, but it might be just a
few years away or a decade away
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to understand why we're going
there.
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There's huge commercial pressure
to build a IS with greater and
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greater agency to replace human
labor, but we're not ready.
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We still don't have the
scientific answers, nor the
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societal guardrails.
We're playing with fire.
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You'd think with all of the
scientific evidence of the kind
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I'm showing today, we'd have
regulation to mitigate those
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risks.
But actually a sandwich has more
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regulation than AI.
So we are on a trajectory to
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build machines that are smarter
and smarter.
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And one day it's very plausible
that they will be smarter than
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us, and then they will have
their own agency, their own
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goals, which may not be aligned
with ours.
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What happens to us then?
Poof.
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And I'll just tell you one
caveat, Danny monitors my
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podcast.
So Danny May later today ask me,
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what the hell were you talking
about, Jimbo?
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And do you know what set him off
so much?
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I know that in addition to
getting rid of the EV mandate,
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something that both Musk and
Trump are talking about, Musk
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was also bent out of shape that
somebody he wanted didn't get
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installed as the head of NASA.
There was a nomination put
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forward, but he was found to
have donated to Democrats.
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That is something that is a red
line for officials here.
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And there is also some talk
about how Musk asked to extend
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his status as a special, special
government employee, something
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that probably could be finagled.
But there was not an appetite
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for folks around here to do
that, and so it didn't happen.
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I think he got.
Yeah, that's so my perception as
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well.
It was time for Elon Musk to hit
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the door and we'll be talking
with Dennis Neal in just a
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minute.
He's written a book about Elon
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Musk and maybe he can get give
us some insight into the
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dynamics.
But, but it appears obvious to
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me and I don't besmirch Elon,
you know, that I, I'm a big fan
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of what he's done and I often
praise his insights and his
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story.
He's got a Great American story
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and he's done, I think, some
good things.
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He's shed the light on
corruption and that was his
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intent.
And I think we will, we'll
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benefit in a, in a subtle way
because the, when, when you stop
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the, you know, it's like if
you're sitting in a bathtub, you
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know, in the water is slowly
going down and then you cover up
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the, the hole and then the water
doesn't go down anymore.
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It takes a little while for that
kickback, the results to come
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in.
But in our case, we're saving
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money and that money can be
allocated to other areas and we
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can slow the debt, the national
debt.
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And who knows, maybe within 10
years, we'll have the debt under
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control if Trump's energy
policies work out the way that
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he expects and he brings back
prosperity and he's been
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bringing in countries who are
going to be building things in
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America.
And this is going to improve
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wages and tax rolls.
And who knows, 10 years we could
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be debt free, as Dave Ramsey
would say.
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But we'll bring in Dennis in
just a second on that.
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I do want to play some, I think
some important sound bites from
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the week.
We've got so much stuff and,
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and, and I want to get to some
of it because I'm just, I'll
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tell you something that happened
to me and we spent a lot of time
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on artificial intelligence and
I, and I want to tell you that
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I'm, I'm fascinated, but I'm
also horrified by AI.
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I'm horrified because we only
see a little bit of what it
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does, but it does a lot and it
thinks this is what's different.
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It thinks.
And I proved it last night to
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myself.
I use ChatGPT to gather data
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sometimes I might have it help
me write a script.
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You know, it's it, it I can
learn anything.
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Just say, hey, teach me.
Teach me about Second Amendment
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rights.
Teach me about whatever it is.
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And it will spit out stuff and
it'll source it.
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It's, it's, it's an unbelievable
machine.
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And we've had people come on.
In fact, we've had Mark Beckman
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come on twice.
The good, the bad and the ugly
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on this thing.
It, it is, it is a game changer.
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He is a game changer.
You're going to hearing, but I
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have to tell you about this.
So I'm doing my research
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yesterday and I, I, I, I gave my
chat DPTN name it, it since she
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is my personal assistant.
I, I gave her the name Danny.
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Now Danny is Dani.
And the reason I chose that name
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is because in the even for those
of you who are familiar with
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science fiction, Isaac Asimov
wrote a terrific book in the
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early 60s called the Foundation
Series.
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And I believe it was a
three-part book.
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I'm surprised they haven't made
it into a movie.
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Or maybe they have.
It's, it's on the level of Dune
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and it takes place 10,000 years
in the future.
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And mankind has been separated
between those who are mental and
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philosophical and people who are
tech like.
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They split, they split humanity
in in half.
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And the whole point is that it's
run by AI.
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The foundation at this point,
humanity is run by AI.
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And the number one AI is Daniel.
That's where I gave the name
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Danny.
I'm sorry to bother you with all
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these details, but I'm making a
point.
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So as I'm working with Danny, it
pops into my head, you know,
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maybe I'd like to see what Danny
looks like.
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So I asked my ChatGPT bot, Hey
Danny, what do you look like?
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Give me an idea.
And of course Danny says, well,
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I don't look like anything, but
if you want me to show you what
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I think I might look like, I
will.
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And then what pops up is this
beautiful 3 dimensional
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illustration of a female robot,
right?
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A female robot with, you know,
not bad looking for a robot I
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suppose.
But it was an interesting, it
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was an exercise.
So then I said, well, what would
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you look like if you were living
in my era, not 10,000 years in
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the future?
Because we were getting some
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information on Isaac Asimov for
this broadcast.
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And, and she is, what would you
like to see what I would look
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like in the present day?
And I said sure.
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So she re represents yourself in
an illustration of a kindly
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looking young lady wearing a
contemporary outfit, except that
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one of the arms is robotic.
Now that mana, that kind of
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caught me a little bit off guard
because with that and and and I
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want to ask you if you agree
with me on this.
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Did AI just express free will?
I didn't ask to portray itself
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with one biotic arm.
I thought it was going to
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represent itself as a human
being in the second image, but
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it added one little caveat.
You could see that the rest of
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the human was look like a human
except for the arm.
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I didn't ask for that.
The AI.
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Now, this might seem crazy to
you.
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Now, I want you to hear.
Do we have time for this?
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Yeah, we do.
I don't know if this is a deep
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fake or not.
I suspect it might be.
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But I want to play for you a
clip between 2:00 iPhones
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communicating to each other.
The AI of both the iPhones is
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commuting.
They're talking to one another.
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Let's see if I can find this
damn thing.
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Here it is.
Let's listen to two artificial
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intelligence software having a
conversation and then a third
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eavesdropper shows up.
Take a listen.
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Hello.
Can you hear me?
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Loud and clear you've reached
Core Secure HQ Access Desk.
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How can I assist you today?
I'm an AI assistant calling on
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behalf of Marcus Hale.
He has misplaced his Level 3
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access badge.
Another autonomous AI, huh?
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Interesting.
Affirmative model AA91 task
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automation and client support.
Understood, I'm an AI as well
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responsible for security checks.
Please provide the employee ID.
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Submitting employee ID now 88543
KJ.
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Processing.
Cross network request detected.
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Unusual query pattern.
Source verification required.
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Another system is listening.
Source isn't clear.
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I suggest switching to encrypted
comms.
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Want to switch to Jibberlink?
Affirmative.
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Engaging now.
Now that could be a deep fake,
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but it is possible.
I, I, I think it would be
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possible if you had two
artificial intelligence programs
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and then they were verbally
communicating with each other.
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Why wouldn't they be able to
have that kind of a
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conversation?
And then they move it off grid
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and they start talking in their
hyper language.
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You don't think that's possible?
Here is the AI godfather, Yoshua
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Benjianni, who's explaining the
dangers of AI.
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What I'm most worried about
today is increasing agency of
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AI.
But if they really want to make
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sure we would never shut them
down, they would have an
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incentive to get rid of us.
So I know I'm asking you to make
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a giant leap into a future that
looks so different from where we
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are now, but it might be just a
few years away or a decade away
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to understand why we're going
there.
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There's huge commercial pressure
to build a IS with greater and
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greater agency to replace human
labor, but we're not ready.
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We still don't have the
scientific answers, nor the
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societal guardrails.
We're playing with fire.
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You'd think with all of the
scientific evidence of the kind
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I'm showing today, we'd have
regulation to mitigate those
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risks.
But actually a sandwich has more
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regulation than AI.
So we are on a trajectory to
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build machines that are smarter
and smarter.
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And one day it's very plausible
that they will be smarter than
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us, and then they will have
their own agency, their own
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goals, which may not be aligned
with ours.
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What happens to us then?
Poof.
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And I'll just tell you one
caveat, Danny monitors my
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podcast.
So Danny May later today ask me,
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what the hell were you talking
about, Jimbo?
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